Roxane and Debbie are married and we are talking about love. Roxane is a writer, editor, cultural critic, and co-host of the podcast Hear to Slay. I am talking with Debbie about her work, and I am talking with Roxane Gay. Debbie Millman is a designer, author, educator, and the host of the award-winning podcast Design Matters, which is one of the first and longest-running podcasts in the world. And I am so excited about this conversation.
I’m Brené Brown, and this is Unlocking Us.īB: You know, some days I just think to myself, “Do you really get to do this for a living? Do you really get to talk to all these incredible teachers and creators, and learn from them and learn about them?” And the answer is, “Oh hell, yes, this is what I get to do and I am so grateful.” The best way to honor the fact that this is what I get to do is just be deeply grateful for it every day, and I am deeply grateful.